The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
I think time will be able to answer.
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
Thank you for your reply. Could you elaborate a bit more ?
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
Be cooler than them, create your own scene.
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
There is a need for new narratives and aesthetics in art!
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
my love if you canโt beat them... ๐ Thatโs actually why I canโt stand the rest of this artists work, this is the one piece that still reaches out to me, itโs poignancy and impact make snobbery etc a triviality โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ๐๐
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
The whitecube is a blackbox
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
by just being oneself ๐๐ป
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
let me think about that for a while and get back to you.. I havenโt had coffee yet!! โบ๏ธ
would love to hear your thoughts
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
in the same way we overcome everyday life
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
Perhaps see a different type of art then what youโve been seeing. Because there is something for every taste. Please keep looking. Art is as truly, sincerely #diverse a movement than anything on this planet. Thank you.
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
you just can come here... ๐ we open for everyone..
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
doing art and working on art with gratitude ๐
for doing art and autorise ourselfs To do it
does one needs to get authorised to do art ?
lot of people don't have time or think it is for an elite yes, so I think that if more people are taking time and pleasure to connect with themselves and do art, it can be a good way to peace
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
trust me you canโt ... what you need is to find the right community who will support you through your journey and right market .. who will believe in you work ... keep creating โค๏ธ
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
you can focus on the ugliness if you so choose but there are always flowers for those who want to see them.. be the change you want to see in the world โ๐ฝ
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
people should use art however they want
But what if it feels good for me but bad for others ?
Others is a huge number. There's billions of people out there. Don't focus or even 200 opinions. Different strokes for diff folks
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
just hang on the wall and pull the pin?
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
by supporting the artists whose art you enjoy. I think Instagram actually has democratized art. It is now more accessible, more widely available. The "art scene" is a market for collectors who view art as an appreciable asset held primarily for investment. The art that trades in that market is generally (a) limited in quantity; (b) internationally recognizable; (c) not necessarily aesthetically pleasing; and (d) not necessarily indicative of talent.
Thank you for your reply. I also think that platforms liek social media democratized art art and the internet in general (still) offers a great tool in doing so.
Regrading some of your points
is it a good thing? It is to those who think the art world was undemocratic, a view you expressed earlier. More people are seeing art. I think that's a good thing.
I think that social media tends to dilute artists rights by allowing derivative works to spread endlessly. But if your art is getting noticed, that is generally a good thing. As to talent and aesthetics, I think art that fails to please an audience and fails to demonstrate talent is not worthy of attention or praise.
I agree that social media can dilute artists right and is especially problematic when it comes to compensation of an artist for his/her work. I do however also have another thought. With our media surroundings getting dominated by ads, bots and influencers curated by agorithms couldn't easily and widely spread art be an important opposing force ?
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
Aesthetic questions also come with ethical ones
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
we gotta rise up and take back whatโs ours . โ๏ธ
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
Don't you see these described traits as problematic ?
no, I don't. That's why I ask you...
Doesn't the artscene then by being as described above underline a certain social order that lacks equality and fairness ? Or asked differently do you think the artscene shouldn't become more open and inclusive ? Why or why not ?
in advance sorry for my bad English. I confess, I haven't asked myself many questions when I posted this picture. I just wanted to highlight the thickness of the chassis, and show my painting from another angle of view. In any case, thank for your opinion.
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
The artscene is elitist, snobbish and undemocratic. how can we overcome this ?
Does the whitecube and the artworks in it conform to the current social order ?
The whitecube is a blackbox
The black box is a white cube ๐
The whitecube is a blackbox
The whitecube is a blackbox
The whitecube is a standard applicable to some but not to all
To what works do you think its applicable ?
maybe it is so abstract of expressionism
The whitecube is a standard applicable to some but not to all
thank you, for your opinion ๐ฅ
The whitecube is a standard applicable to some but not to all
The whitecube is a standard applicable to some but not to all
whats your take on the whitecube as an exhibition context ?
are you invited me for one exhibition dear?
no I asked you what do you think of the whitecube (clean white walls, ceiling light, no windows) as a way to exhibit artworks
transparent windows.. with glasses or not ๐
The whitecube is a standard applicable to some but not to all
what do you mean by this?
Im talking about the whitecube as kind of room in the gallery context. White clean walls, ceiling lights and usually now windows. So exactly like the gallery you posted. This kind of room is the common standard in Galleries isnt it? Now What Im interested in is if this kind of standard works with every artwork or only to a certain kind. What do you think ?
to me it gives a neutral unbiased place to view work. People can make more of a connection to it without the environment distracting from the work
The whitecube is a standard applicable to some but not to all
The whitecube is a blackbox
The internet can be a tool to overcome the elitist and undemocratic boundaries of the art scene
The whitecube is beyond the present reality
I got this statement after talking with someone about the idea that the whitecube is isolated from the present reality in a " limbolike status "as Brian O'Doherty called it in his book about the ideology of the whitecube. The idea is that the whitecubed exibition context is made so that every influence from outside gets eliminated. What do you think though ?
Iโm not sure ๐ค Hunni... the Gallery for me is nothing more than a Shop Window for the Artist ๐ฉโ๐ค to set up Stall... The Gallery has Probably โgot up itselfโ and is full of โSelf Importanceโ ... Call me Old Fashioned but I just want to be put in touch with the kind of Patrons who will Nurture and Look After Me...White Cube Galleries are a New Fangled Thing and May NOT exist for long in Their Atmosphere of Elitism... the Artist ๐ฉโ๐ค is doin it for themselves Baby ๐ผ
The whitecube is beyond the present reality
Sorry but I don't know which part do you mean
no worries the comment wasn't a critic of your work in any kind. Its a statement about the exhibition standard of the 'whitecube' meaning clean white walls, no windows, ceiling light. The usual kind of room you find in many if not most art museums. What do you think about this kind of room ?
like it. It's just like the simplest thing of art.๐ @unspookedart
donโtknow Either for you, sorry if you are bored or not...
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The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
Does the whitecube and the artworks in it conform to the current social order ?
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
is that a good or bad thing in your opinion ?
I think I all options are full of possibilities ๐ฅ
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
The artist has, just as any other person responsibilities she/he can choose to take on or not
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
donโtknow Either for you, sorry if you are bored or not...
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
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The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
Does the whitecube and the artworks in it conform to the current social order ?
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
is that a good or bad thing in your opinion ?
I think I all options are full of possibilities ๐ฅ
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
The whitecube is isolated from the present reality
The artist has, just as any other person responsibilities she/he can choose to take on or not
I do not understand the question ... ? maybe because I'm not English .... English is not my native language....
What are the alternatives to the exhibition context of the whitecube?
Apart from Instagram, I never exhibit my work. I love making art.
what do you like about instagram ?
It's my only way of sharing my work.
What are the alternatives to the exhibition context of the whitecube?
it would be interesting to have one whitecube supported by several straight lines
What are the alternatives to the exhibition context of the whitecube?
Yes I read his book on the whitecubes ideology. I just looked up the last part where he concludes with Mondrians 'Salon de Madame' as a possible alternative to the whitecube. He quotes Mondrian
What are the alternatives to the exhibition context of the whitecube?
what like an art gallery? honestly this is such a pointless thing to write.
I was talking about the whitecube as the standard seen in most art galleries and museums. White clean walls, ceiling lighting, no windows. Everything clean and sterile. Im intersted if there are any alternatives to that kind of room since its the dominating way to exhibit in the art world.
What are the alternatives to the exhibition context of the whitecube?
have a great day, don't get grumpy if art doesn't match with your ideas๐
What are the alternatives to the exhibition context of the whitecube?
Can you describe what you're talking about?
Since the whitecube (clean white walls, celing lights, no windows) is the standard for exhibitiong art. What do you think could be an alternative to that ?
Since exhibition space should be composed so that it is not harmful to the audience, I would like to start by focusing on the audience's viewing as an alternative to the whitecube exhibition. Because it is not just a space for an artist but a place for everyone participating in the space, it is not wrong to oppose and deny the exhibition like any rule, but it is a difference of viewpoint.
Unfortunately, I am not a planner who makes up the exhibition, but a nameless painter, so it is hard to make a clear alternative right away. Have a nice day!
